“You’re a Chef?! You must eat so well.”

Season 1

Sep 25

Episode 006:

Aubrey Shaffner

Pastry Professional, Educator, and Host

As we round out the season we're going to prove that having healthy boundaries, and running successful ventures, do actually go hand in hand. And in case you haven't yet discovered what really brings joy and peace into your life, this episode is intended to help you. We're going to discover what that may be. Because you have to know what you want to protect in order to know the steps to take next.

EPISODE HIGHLIGHTS

[00:00:00] Touching base with where we have been, and where we are headed this season
[00:07:00] Appreciating “Seven Circles, Indigenous Teachings for Living Well” by Chelsea Lugger and Thosh Collins
[00:10:00] How can you use the Seven Teachings to bring more balance to your life
[00:35:00] Teaser of what’s to come
[00:36:00] Outro

RESOURCES

EP002: How the f*ck did we get here?

EP003: Jacqueline Mearman; Outgrowing toxic industry habits

EP004: Kieffer Morgan; Empathy is key

EP005: Zack Mills; Everything with intention

Charm City Books website

Well for Culture website

Buy “The Seven Circles, Indigenous Teachings for Living Well” here

TRANSCRIPT

Music fades in…

Touching base with where we have been, and where we are headed this season

[00:00:00] Aubrey: Welcome to another episode of the Golden Approach podcast, a show where service professionals can come together to figure out hospitality, beyond old habits. And I'm so, so grateful that you're here. We are officially halfway through season one, and we've covered a lot of ground so far. We've all learned a little more about why the systems are what they are in episode two, how we can go beyond those systems in episode five, and how to create more successful, and empathetic work environments in episodes three and four. As we round up the season, we're going to prove that having healthy boundaries, and running successful ventures do actually go hand in hand. And in case you haven't yet discovered what really brings joy and peace into your life, this episode is intended to help you. We're going to discover what that may be. Because you have to know what you want to protect in order to know the steps to take next. So let's all agree we're going to

[00:01:00] Aubrey: tune out the bullshit going on around you and focus on your dream world scenario for just 35 minutes. This is a judgment free zone, so I hope you'll be really open and honest with yourself about how you wish you got to spend your time and what your true talents are. So let's get into this episode to discover what's really important to you.

Music fades out…

[00:01:21] Aubrey: I've had this episode in mind for quite some time because every time I tell someone what I do for a living, or tell them I'm married to a chef, I swear they always respond with, “Oh my God, you must eat so well!” And the irony is... I am like a trash panda, eating whatever scraps have been left around for me to access. Maybe it sat out for eight hours, I'm still eating it because I don't know when my next meal is coming along; but still there's nothing of quality going into my body. Nothing to help me sustain through all the difficult things that I put it through, especially in these busier seasons of life, which I am definitely knee deep in at the moment. So when it came to actually explaining, and

[00:02:00] Aubrey: recording this episode, I had been stuck. I knew what I wanted to say, but just could not figure out how to say it. And I am literally down to the wire of recording this episode, it's like the last second I could in order to have it out on time to you. And the reason I don't know how to process the feelings I have right now is because I have put myself in a position where I am just so tired and spread so thin, not prioritizing my needs and of course, it would be difficult for me to figure out how to process that. I feel like the last person who should be talking about like boundaries and work life balance right now; I'm honestly failing at it. But I was very fortunate that last year I did take a sabbatical. I got some time and space to do a lot of self

[00:03:00] Aubrey: reflection, built good habits, and was building a life I really enjoyed. But I also had a lot of control over whatever I invested my energy into, I was making conscious choices for pretty much everything and taking sabbaticals just isn't realistic as a solution to the problem. I used my entire nest egg to do that, I don't have the ability to do it again… maybe you don't have the ability to do it at all. So how do we actually build a quality foundation when we have just life throwing all the things at us? Maybe we don't have the space. Maybe we don't have the energy, whatever you want to call it, to just, like, fully focus on doing the work. As service professionals, we typically don't really have the time and energy to care for ourselves because we're so busy investing that energy into caring for everyone else. Like, I could tell you...

[00:04:00] Aubrey: So many guest preferences, I could tell you parts of all the things that I have in the freezer in the low boy, out on the station to sell to guests. My brain is full of so much information all the time… but the same time I can barely tell you what I have in my fridge. Maybe I don't have anything in my fridge. I don't even remember the last time I went grocery shopping. Even at my wedding, my sister ended up living with us for like three months while she was transitioning from one home to the other, and as my maid of honor in her wedding speech joked about how she ended up just eating a bunch of frozen pizza and she didn't recommend it to anyone and everyone thought it was funny, and I mean it was, but like it's kind of just sad at the same time that that's just normal. So how do we start finding that transition and still be able to do our jobs well, but set stronger boundaries and just live happier lives? I'll be honest, it can feel overwhelming. Maybe you

[00:05:00] Aubrey: feel it's overwhelming. It's just too big of a project to take on. It's too important of a project not to take on. So my main goal today is to help you break this down into bite-sized pieces. And yes, that pun was intended. I want you to actually feel like it's something you can handle, and accomplish, and be successful at. If you're someone who maybe lacks the confidence to invest in yourself, please hear me very clearly. You deserve to be just as well taken care of as anyone you're taking care of. And you cannot do as good a job of taking care of other people if you're not taking care of yourself. And I know this because I am the pot telling the kettle, but you just have to do it, okay? You have to do it, whatever that takes. Even right now, take a quiet moment, put yourself at a comfy place or you know, go for a

[00:06:00] Aubrey: peaceful walk with your dog, grab a journal, whatever it is, focus on this episode. I really think it's going to help you jumpstart some thoughts, find some self-acceptance, healing, whatever you want to call it. And maybe it sounds a little woo woo to you now, but it's an important conversation, and we all deserve to do this for ourselves. So do what you gotta do, get yourself settled, and then keep listening… So in my attempt to come here with any kind of solution that is actually going to be helpful, because again, the whole point of the show is to provide tangible advice, exercises. So you don't have to think like, how do I do this thing? I personally hate when podcast shows, whatever, people tell their entire life story and that's great, but they didn't really tell me the steps they took to get where they actually got. It's just sort of like this beautiful story with a happy ending. So that's what I'm trying to offer you might look different for everyone.

Appreciating “Seven Circles, Indigenous Teachings for Living Well” by Chelsea Lugger and Thosh Collins

[00:07:00] Aubrey: So my goal here is not necessarily to say, do this or do that specifically. It's rather just to help start a thought process for you so you can make the necessary changes and do what works best for you. It is definitely going to require a really authentic check-in with yourself of what's currently in and out of balance of your life. Be honest. You cannot make change if you're not truthful with where you're currently at. So with all this being said, I want to introduce you to a book for those who know me, this will come as no surprise that I am recommending a book. And if you don't know me, know now, I'm book-obsessed; will probably do this regularly. But seriously, it's so good. I found it randomly at a small bookstore, which I also highly recommend called Charm City Books. If you're in the area, passing through the area, definitely go stop there. Cute as a button, excellent selection for its size, cannot recommend it enough. So I was perusing their

[00:08:00] Aubrey: cookbook section, again no surprise, and they do have an excellent like pastry book selection, which is very rare, but I digress. This section is next to the wellness section, which makes sense. And so in that wellness section, this book kind of just, it caught my eye. I had no intention of buying it. I just thought it was cool they happened to have it. It's called “The Seven Circles, Indigenous Teachings for Living Well” by the authors Chelsea Lugger and Thosh Collins; they're married and they did the book together. And I picked it up honestly, just because being raised Lakota, I thought it was pretty cool to find a book talking about indigenous teachings in a regular bookstore. So I was curious what was inside, but it's also just beautiful. She's a photographer. And it shows the imagery is exceptional. It could just honestly be a coffee table book, but you would not be using it to its full potential if that's all you use

[00:09:00] Aubrey: it for. So I just started flipping through it out of curiosity and after like 20 minutes of standing there reading it, I was just like, well you should probably buy this book. And I didn't expect to jump right into it, I just, again, I thought it was interesting. I'd have it, whatever. And I devoured it in, I think, two days. It's not super long, but it is a little over 200 pages, but it just sucked me right in. And maybe for me, it's a little specific because it really just helped me feel reconnected to how I was raised, but these are universal lessons. It has nothing necessarily to do with specific spiritualities of Indigenous culture. You do not need this to be your thing to use this as a guide. However, If you're not familiar with indigenous teachings and cultures, this is a pretty great way to introduce yourself to what it is. And the teachings in the book are pretty universal overall, I mean yes there's some variety

How can you use the Seven Teachings to bring more balance to your life

[00:10:00] Aubrey: nation to nation, but anyway, this is a really good introductory place to start. So I'm going to touch on the seven teachings introduced in this book, because honestly, they're just great places to connect with yourself on what's going well. What isn't working for you? How can you move forward to, you know, to build the life that you want to have? So the seven circles are movement, land, community, ceremony, sacred spaces, sleep, and food, right? These are universal things that all humans care about in a way to live a balanced life. And honestly, at the end of the day, that's the foundation of indigenous culture. It is about balance. Balance within ourselves. Within our world. It includes the acceptance of imbalance because there's no way you can approach all these things equally at all times in the same way life is fluid and that's unrealistic. So the point is

[00:11:00] Aubrey: to kind of hone in on these foundational things that help you live a balanced life. So that way, A. It's easier to pinpoint what's out of balance, but B. to kind of make this again a bit more bite sized so you can see where you really need to focus your energy right now and what you can build towards later. So let's jump in. Start with movement. For those in service roles, I'd say this one is probably the easiest to accomplish. In a sense we're always moving. But the question I have for you is, do we have quality movement? For example, I'm a pastry chef. I move all day every day. I move for like bare minimum 90 percent of the day running around. I'm also standing on really hard floors, usually out of cement. It is so bad for your joints and your back in pastry. A lot of times you're piping or rolling dough and hunching over a table.

[00:12:00] Aubrey: So it's kind of like dog years, like I am just abusing my body at a faster rate. This movement is not necessarily a quality movement. So what can I introduce into my life that is of quality? For me, as I mentioned a previous episode, that was going back to ballet. It's something that helped me to be in touch with myself, not only physically, but mentally and emotionally as well. A place where I could tune the outside world out and build strength, stretch my muscles. But to be honest, I've been so busy recently. It's been three months since I've made it to a class. And that's been really messing with me mentally because I'm now disappointed in myself that I made this progress and then abandoned it, and have not found a way back to it. It makes me feel physically achy and uncomfortable because I'm not working my body the way I should,

[00:13:00] Aubrey: or stretching the way I should. So it is important to find your thing, but it's just as important to make sure it's something sustainable and something that you're not going to do what I did and say, “well, I'll come back later when it's easier” Right? And not making it a priority. You need to make a commitment to yourself, pick a thing. Maybe you rotate the thing. Sometimes it could be yoga. Sometimes it could be a jog. It does not have to always be the same. It could be a set time and day, right? That's your time. You get, I don't know, one hour on this weekday evening and you're going to do something for yourself. Maybe it's even as simple as just stretching on the floor if that's all you have energy for that day, but you committed that that is your time to do something kind to your body. And start there, give yourself lots of forgiveness for that ebb and flow that is life. You're going to be more willing to stick with it then, and it'll make you feel really good. So are you moving? Is it quality movement, right? Some take away specifically from the book

[00:14:00] Aubrey: I did want to share that I thought were great to remember is that movement is medicine, and I don't mean that in necessarily a spiritual way. I mean it quite literally. Movement is medicine for your body. It is critical for your health and your overall well being. You need to approach movement in a way that honors and celebrates your body, and all it has to offer. And again, I know this ebbs and flows, especially as women. This is a constant battle with changing hormones and the coordination of what's going on in your life. You know, maybe you're stressed at work, you're PMSing, and the last thing you want to do is something with a lot of exertion like going for a jog or heavy lifting. and that's okay! Go for a walk. It's not about burning calories or building a lot of muscles. Just be kind to your body, and find some quality movement that feels good for wherever you are mentally and physically at that moment.

[00:15:00] Aubrey: And for you men out there, count your blessings you don't have to take that into consideration. Either way, just be there for yourself. The next teaching is land. And this can mean a lot of things to different people. As a chef, I think that this is important because what I do typically happens in a sunless room where, especially in the winter months, I may see the sun for max 10 minutes a day. You're just locked in a little windowless box. The other thing about it too is food itself, right? Like what I do is I work with food that comes from the land. So in many ways, land is super important to who I am as a person, but also what I do for a career. You have to ask yourself, one, are you actually getting any time to spend outside? Are you taking in fresh air? Have you stopped to actually listen to nature? Or are you just always blasting music,

[00:16:00] Aubrey: blasting podcasts? And don't get me wrong, love podcasts. I'm hoping you're listening to my podcast. But it's also just as important that you stop, pause, listen. What sounds are around you? Like here, it's about to be fall. I can walk around and I can smell the leaves on the ground. I can feel that crispness coming back in the air. I hear the rustling of the dried leaves by the wind. All those things. If you're not around those things or hearing those things, I just encourage you to try something that gets you out and grounded. It's very impactful. And even if you don't think it's your thing. As humans, trust me, it's your thing. You just don't know it's your thing yet. Like, even this past weekend, I have just been feeling so disconnected, I've mentioned multiple times now that my life is in chaos. And I just got an

[00:17:00] Aubrey: opportunity to sit on a little beach by the Potomac River and I just sat there on a log watching this storm travel across the horizon. I got to feel the light rain on my skin and my toes in the sand. I could hear the thunder and the waves crashing and it was just such a treat for me to just be. No emails, no texts, not thinking about having to problem solve for everyone around me. I just existed. And when you take more time to be intentional, or whatever you want to call it, you'll be impressed with the things that start becoming more aware to you, all the things around you. So the takeaway from the book that I wanted to share was, when you're stressed, pause. Use your senses to ground you. What are you seeing? What are you hearing, feeling, smelling, if applicable, tasting? How can you get more involved or connected to nature?

[00:18:00] Aubrey: Even if you're not what you would think of as like an outdoorsy type, that's okay. There are still things that you can do that are a little quote outdoorsy that aren't backpacking and camping, just to find what works for you. The next one is community. And I've mentioned this in a previous episode as well, that you cannot solely rely on your work community to be your only community. You do need to have other things in your life. Who do you have in your life that supports you? And if you're lacking, just start exploring where to find community. Honestly, I think hobbies are a great place to start. Book clubs, gardening, whatever it is, go to a library. Libraries are great places. You can do so much more than borrow a book. You can go to events they host. Heck, at the end of the day, it is a free place to sit and exist, and you just never know who you're going to run into. Go to

[00:19:00] Aubrey: community events. What's happening in your neighborhood? Whatever it is, just find a way to be a part of something. It can help round you out as well. And I know this does take time. It takes energy. Again, I also struggle with making this a priority. I am very good at convincing myself that I don't need that, or it's just better to stay in tonight. I'm also very good at convincing myself that my needs are always taking away from other people. And I just want to put this out there that even I'm aware, at least consciously, that this is a really unfair assumption to make about people around me. As someone who thoroughly enjoys making people happy, I think it's rude and presumptuous for me to assume that other people don't feel that way. So, it's not really okay for me to want to give, give, give, and then when other people want to give to me, to reject them. But the point is... Community is one of the most important resources of humanity, like

[00:20:00] Aubrey: literally humans couldn't survive without each other. So find something that speaks to your gifts or something you can contribute to, and then just be brave enough to put yourself out there. Maybe try offering help to someone to break the ice or invite others into things you enjoy. Again, a book club, a community sports team, there's just so many options in the world of activities. Just pick something. And if you don't like it, it's fine. Pick something else. Move on. But you tried. You put yourself out there. And that is the most important first step. Next let's talk about ceremony. This can be very personal and I want to be clear. It does not need to be religious or spiritual. If it is for you, that's great. If not, no worries. Actually, a quote from the book I thought

[00:21:00] Aubrey: summed it up incredibly well, which was “to live in a ceremonial way is to carry yourself with compassion, dignity, respect, honor, and humility.” It's really that simple. And whatever that translates for you, great. For me, ceremony could be as simple as my tea routine in the morning. Brings me a little bit of peace, actually guarantees I'm going to put some liquids in my body that day. What a win. Could also be my skincare routine before bed. And while I hope in the future to do more, not only for myself, but for my community, right now I only have space for those small bites. It's just what I can do. And it might sound selfish, but that's where I'm at. So I'm sticking with these small things, doing them with intention, filling my cup. And another quote on that note from the book that I think sums this up really well is, “ritual and ceremony

[00:22:00] Aubrey: create the energy of reciprocity.” Again, “ritual and ceremony create the energy of reciprocity.” When your cup is full and it starts to overflow, you want to give more happy people like to do things that make other people happy. It's human nature. And so I tried to prioritize doing these things that are going to set me up for success in that way that make me feel like I have something to give. And yes, of course we can give on an empty tank. I know I speak from experience, but it's a different kind of give, like the kind of give that you do on an empty tank is usually because of some kind of obligation; obligation to your team, obligation to your job because they pay you, obligation to your family, whatever it is. But when your cup is full. And you've been able to invest in yourself in that ritual, ceremony, whatever you want to call it; it's a different kind of reciprocity. Something that you are genuinely motivated to do. And therefore it's going to be more genuine and have bigger impact. So, it's important for us to say, you know what? I understand this is my job.

[00:23:00] Aubrey: I understand this is the expectation, but I'm going to actually do better work when I step away, and I feel more put together, and more at peace, than if I'm just doing it again out of quote obligation. So my suggestion is to review what does ceremony mean to you? On a micro level, and on a macro level, don't be afraid to experiment, to try new things, and find what works for you, and to move on from what doesn't. And if you do use a spiritual practice outside of your own culture, just as a note, say like yoga or even referencing this book, I really encourage you to use the opportunity to dig deeper into those histories, origins, cultures. And not only because you'll have a better understanding of the original culture, but I actually think it will help you discover more about yourself; why you were attracted to that thing in the first place.

[00:24:00] Aubrey: Or maybe you'll think about something in a different light than you had been taught. So whatever you choose to do, just choose to approach it in a well rounded way. Next, let's talk about sacred spaces. Again, this is very personal. It does not need to be religious or spiritual, and it can be as simple as your home. For me, I wanted to ensure that I had outdoor space. I live in a city, if I'm outdoors, I'm very typically surrounded by people. And I wanted to create a space where I could go and enjoy fresh air and not actually have to interact with another human unless I chose to. So despite how tight my budget was last year, because I made like no money, I found a way to just do a little section of our backyard and it was worth every penny. I cannot express enough what an impact it made to my mental health. So figure out what you can afford. Maybe it's your house.

[00:25:00] Aubrey: Maybe it's, you know, a budget to go to a coffee shop once a week. Whatever it is, just finding a space that feels safe, where you can really focus and have clarity and feel relaxed so that way you can be creative. The point is just experiment. Learn to set proper boundaries in those spaces also, not only so you can ensure that you're comfortable, but it needs to provide what you actually need from it. Build your spaces with intention; maybe declutter, remove electronics, make the things that bring you joy more accessible. All these things are going to make you want to actually be in that space. So, just pick one; start and build it to what you need. All right, next we have sleep. This one can really set the tone for everything you do. If you are not getting proper rest, there is absolutely no way you are going to be in good shape to take on any of the stressors that life presents.

[00:26:00] Aubrey: And I do want to be clear that this includes all type of rest, whether you're, you know, awake resting or asleep resting; any type of rest that you're getting in your life. I am still very much working on this one. I do think I've noticed some huge improvements when I interact less with technology, stretch more. Shocker. I know. But even though they're very simple things, I'm still not very good at committing to them on the regular. So note to myself and to you, be patient. But pay attention to what things actually are making a big impact for you. And another thing I try to do is limit, like, the responsibilities I need to do before bed. In my scenario, Ryan gets home really, really late, and our quality time together usually starts... At the earliest 9:30 at night, but sometimes

[00:27:00] Aubrey: could be 11 o'clock. So if I didn't stay up, I honestly would never see him. So I do choose to do that, even though it really throws off my routine. The ways I've found to make it doable are like when I get home from my job, which is much earlier, more like maybe 5:30 to 7:30, I immediately take off my makeup. I do my skincare routine. I, I don't know, maybe braid my hair or something, whatever it is that I'm going to like need for bedtime later that I can do ahead, I do ahead, and set myself up for success. Because when I finally do wander my way up to bed at midnight, one o'clock, I don't feel motivated to do those things. So I'm probably not going to do them and be. Even if I do, they typically wake me up and make it

[00:28:00] Aubrey: even more difficult for me to go to sleep because now my brain is working. So, whatever it is for you, be honest about reflecting on what is your sleep schedule. If you're a night owl, own that you're a night owl. And even if your work doesn't completely customize to that, at least you know where you're working from so you can make smarter choices. Another thing too here is also the space. A worthy space is important to invest in, and you should ensure you have what you need to be successful at rest. If that's your mattress needs adjustment, maybe it's too firm, get the topper, right? Like, or maybe it's the sheets, a fan, it's too hot in your room. Just there's no judgments. Find what works in your budget and just approach this in a healthy and kind way. The last teaching is food. And of course, this is a vital one. I don't say that just because of what I do for a living, like if you're a human, you can't escape this one. Eventually, we're

[00:29:00] Aubrey: all going to need to eat something. And it really influences everything, right? Everything we've discussed so far can be changed by what you eat. So Ryan and I luckily take turns of who's being more or less consistent, and sometimes we're really on it, and it's great. And there are plenty of other times where we just cannot keep up. Again, when you cook food all day, the last thing you want to do is come home, and cook more food, and think about more food, and meal prep more food. So some of the things we've tried to ensure that we're still being good to ourselves are prepared meals. Like Blue Apron was one that we preferred. I'd liked, I didn't have to go grocery shopping. I had exactly what I needed and I wasn't wasting a bunch of extra food. I didn't have to think about what to cook. I just had three options that week, and I picked what I had. And while that did work for us for a long time, it is also very expensive. So we floated in and out of

[00:30:00] Aubrey: that one. I do also really recommend the New York Times. They have a really excellent selection of like weekly meals that they rotate out each week. They've all been delicious that we've tried. And I'm always really impressed by how well rounded the meals are for 30 minutes or less of effort. So also an option to try. And then sometimes we're just in a season of like delivery and pre made foods. situation here in a way, but take it from me, it does make a difference. So, the little takeaway from the book on this one that I thought was really helpful and wanted to share was identify what about food is important to you. Is it cultural significance? Is it personal flavor preferences? How do you use food as an experience? Like, is it a way for you to reconnect with yourself? Maybe a great opportunity to learn some family recipes that you never cooked before or eaten before. Or

[00:31:00] Aubrey: maybe an opportunity to reflect on health concerns and nutritional needs you might have. Something that also really influences this is the sources of food that are even available to you. Can you get things delivered? I can get all my groceries delivered. I also used a service for a while that was taking like the ugly foods and whatnot from the farmers and the grocery stores, and I could get that delivered to my house. But if you have to drive to a grocery store, What kind of stores do you have access to? What kind of quality food are they? Some places are also just food deserts. I know, like, when we were out in South Dakota, we used to have to drive 45 minutes to buy anything. I mean, like even to get to gas stations, 45 minutes. So I understand that not everyone is in the same boat on this one. And for some, this is way more challenging than for others.

[00:32:00] Aubrey: So with that, my next question for you is what's something that you can involve yourself in, in that food process? Like Maybe it's something as simple as learning how to make a basic sandwich bread, which honestly is not that hard. I know everyone was into sourdough during quarantine and COVID and whatnot, but that is a complex bread to get yourself into. Lots of nuance, and you have to maintain the starter. It's delicious, but it's involved. What you want to learn how to make is what we call a lean dough. It's basically flour, water, salt, and maybe some butter and sugar. Okay? It's cheap, it's fast, and it's still way better for you than when you get in the grocery store. And it's a nice way to kind of again, create that ceremony we were talking about. Maybe you try growing some herbs. Pick like your top three herbs that you always use. Parsley, Basil, Rosemary; I don't care. Pick three

[00:33:00] Aubrey: and just keep them in your kitchen window. Not only do you have something fresh that boosts the flavor of what you're eating, but you can really be proud that you did that, you grew that! The point is, as always throughout this episode here, that I'm just here to spark thought. This is up to you. There is no right or wrong answer, no comparing of yourself to other people, what they're accomplishing, et cetera. Stop getting on the social media and being jealous. And I say this again for myself, I'm watching all these people and, you know, they're sitting there drinking their tea, reading their books, gardening, crafting, whatever. And that time I'm spending watching them do these things, being jealous that they have time to do it. I am literally wasting the time that I could have been doing those things. So, even when you think you don't have time, or the ability, there's always a way to just... Start. Okay? Be kind to yourself. Prioritize yourself. The only person that you need to be worried about, or competing with, or supporting, is yourself.

[00:34:00] Aubrey: Because if you support yourself, then you have something to give to other people. And when I'm done recording this episode, Trust me, I'm going to go through all these things myself and find a way to try again to reground myself, do a check in. Hopefully I can do this on a regular basis. I don't know, once a week, once a month, right? If you start doing a check in, please, I hope that you'll somehow let us know. Like send us an email, tag us, share this with us. This podcast I created with the intention of building community. If I'm not creating content that's useful for you, please know to tell me. And if it is useful for you, please tell me that too. Like, I would be ecstatic to know how not only I can best serve you, but also selfishly that, I don't know, that something I said made a difference for you. So I hope you'll actually take the time to go through these seven teachings we talked about, and reflect on how you can better incorporate them into your life, and. I also hope that you will check the show notes or go to the

Teaser of what’s to come

[00:35:00] Aubrey: website to see the link to the book. Again, it's called “The Seven Circles, Indigenous Teachings for Living Well” it's by Chelsea Lugger and Thosh Collins. Because I cannot recommend it enough. It doesn't matter if you're Indigenous or not. It's a wonderful book about human life and how we can better support not only ourselves, but each other. So, I really appreciate you listening to another episode. I am really looking forward to all the remaining guests we have this season who are going to dig even deeper into this, on not only how to build boundaries for yourself, like we talked about today, but how to build boundaries with your clients and still be successful with your business. How to build a brand that works for you, and with your life. I want everyone to be able to live

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[00:36:00] Aubrey: the life that they want to live. And this industry does not have to always be an all or nothing kind of thing. So anyway, I'm really grateful for your time and check back in two weeks for an all new episode. Thank you for listening to another episode of the Golden Approach Podcast. If you enjoyed listening, I would super appreciate it if you would share us with a friend or maybe give us a follow, that's cool too. And if you wanna hang out with us some more, follow on Instagram @goldenapproachpod or check out our website, goldenapproachpodcast.com for more details such as transcripts and reference links from today's episode. Until next time though, remember; everything's going to be just fine.

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